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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Last Updated: 17.06.2025 00:14

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

I always feel very tired after I do some exercises, even after a night's sleep. What's the problem?

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

My ex got into a relationship within 2 weeks after a breakup. What should I do?

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

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Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Why are people so terrified or bothered that a person has original creative ideas, hobbies or unique interests?

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

What was the weakest period in US history in terms of military strength? Was it during World War II or the Vietnam War?

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

CONCLUSION:

Who is the most annoying character in the Office?

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

What is it like to be the slave in a mistress-slave relationship?

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Why is it easy to make money in the USA?

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Would you date a Muslim guy? Why/why not?

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Why do people always talk about Ohio as it's a dangerous city?

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

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Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Now here in this verse

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

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ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

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ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

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Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

I am like a fish out of water,

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

then who is there to know what happens without?

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Sain (a barber)

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

Kabir (a weaver)

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

NOW…

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?